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posted October 12, 2007 8:42 PM PDT

jimson weed is for the real mother fucker.
its free and fucks yo shit up.

just go ask carlos castaneda.




There is a mnemonic device for the physiological effects of datura/atropine intoxication: "blind as a bat, mad as a hatter, red as a beet, hot as hell, dry as a bone, the bowel and bladder lose their tone, and the heart runs alone." Another rhyme describing its effects is, "Can't see, can't spit, can't pee, can't shit." Regarding Datura, among the Navajo is the folk admonition, 'Eat a little, and go to sleep. Eat some more, and have a dream. Eat some more, and don't wake up.' The actual effects are reported to be: cycloplegia and mydriasis (extreme dilation of the pupil), flushed, warm and dry skin, dry mouth, urinary retention and ileus (slowing or stopping of intestinal movement), rapid heart beat, hypertension or hypotension, and choreoathetosis/jerky movements. In case of overdose the effects are hyperthermia, coma, respiratory arrest, and seizures. The vast majority of atropine-poisoning cases are accompanied by delirium with visual and auditory hallucinations.

The effects of Datura have been described as a living dream: consciousness falls in and out, people who don't exist or are miles away are conversed with, etc. The effects can last for days. Tropane alkaloids are some of the few substances which cause true hallucinations which cannot be distinguished from reality. It may be described as a "real" trance when a user under the effect can be awake but completely disconnected from his immediate environment. In this case, the user would ignore most stimuli and respond to unreal ones. This is unlike psilocybin or LSD, which only cause sensory distortions.

The doses that cause noticeable effects, and the doses that can kill are very close with datura. This makes overdosing on Datura stramonium very easy. This can be fatal; it can cause fevers in the 105-110 (40-43°C) range which is a range that can kill brain cells, and lead to brain damage. There have been many instances of teenagers looking for a cheap high poisoning themselves to death on datura. If someone overdoses on datura it is advised to induce vomiting, to wash out his or her stomach, and to get the person hospitalized immediately.

If taken recreationally and the user does not notice any conscious effects, most people redose thinking it's not working, which is why overdoses are so common. The user doesn't realize that he or she was hallucinating. Some users have reported seeing an array of people from their lives. A few anecdotal reports also mention the user's perception of "phantom cigarettes"; the person believes that he or she is smoking a cigarette only to find that it has disappeared later, thus realizing that it never existed. At the peak of such experiences users often enter a true psychotomimetic state, in which they "lose touch with reality" altogether; at this point, many find it difficult or impossible to communicate with others.

A majority of users who have written reports on experiences with this drug have described those experiences as unpleasant and often terrifying. This is possibly due to their having taken excessive doses. The powerful effects of Datura continue until the body metabolizes the tropane alkaloids.

Scopolamine is the primary hallucinogen in Datura wrightii from California and other Daturas. Scopolamine can be slowly and erratically absorbed into the brain. In most people, scopolamine reaches the brain within an hour or so after ingestion and causes visual and auditory hallucinations. In about 25% of people, scopolamine is very slowly absorbed into the brain, taking up to 13 hours to enter the brain. These are the people who are at the highest risk of overdosing. They become impatient waiting for their recreational high and take more of the plant extract.

posted October 12, 2007 8:46 PM PDT

castaneda actually smoked amixture of plants. and there is also a ritual or sense of becoming in the present that leads to proper passage into different awareness. science kills the mysticness of what mother nature actually has to offer.

posted October 12, 2007 8:47 PM PDT

fuck me for not picking up one or more of his books yet.

posted October 12, 2007 8:49 PM PDT

meaning, you just cant go out and smoke the shit to get high. bad trips become aware because there is no one there to guide you. no matter the kicker

posted October 12, 2007 8:49 PM PDT

on another note, I prefer to play it safe, and hope to reach crazy levels of higher consiousness through my own mind and energy. I wanna connect with people and the earth and myself, not die.

posted October 12, 2007 8:51 PM PDT

Side Effects/Risks: Potential for accidental poisoning increases with higher doses. Symptoms include incoherent speech, impaired coordination; rapid heart beat; and dry, flushed or hot skin. In extreme cases, users can experience seizures, intense visual or auditory hallucinations, or cardiac arrest. A Jimson weed overdose should be considered potentially serious and medical intervention sought.


No Thanks.......

posted October 12, 2007 8:52 PM PDT

these spores are just small tools that help unlock parts of your existence. with the abuse of any substance, not just drugs, comes a false understanding. you are your own dimension. i say explore it.

posted October 12, 2007 8:53 PM PDT

ehhh... I'd want the person who gave it to/did it with me, to be a well trained and experienced botonist and ecologist.

posted October 12, 2007 8:56 PM PDT

also leading people to believe these ideas, as our friend poppa has pointed out, as stated in the passage vagranist posted either freaks them out and they close off to it. or they jump straight in cause thier down and hardcore. knowledge is good. theres a difference between that and information based on an individual who usually chooses not to research

posted October 12, 2007 8:56 PM PDT

in his later books he reveals different parts of the plant do different things, namely the roots, stalk, leaves and seeds from the pod/ or pod itself (which can kill or retard)

the two other substances he used were: peyote, mushroom powder.

posted October 12, 2007 8:57 PM PDT

did anyone see that CSI i think, where the guys are doing jimson weed and one freaks out and thinks the other is a werewolf and kills him? it was pretty cool.

posted October 12, 2007 8:57 PM PDT

and he had don juan

posted October 12, 2007 8:57 PM PDT

Yeah....I'll pass...

posted October 12, 2007 10:17 PM PDT

I almost got jimson weed tattooed on my leg. It's attractive.

posted October 13, 2007 2:19 AM PDT

I gave The teachings of Don Juan to Goodwill.

posted October 13, 2007 2:27 AM PDT

One time I rode my bike on a trail at night. The batteries in my light died on the way down and there was no moon, so I steered into a ditch, launched off my bike, and landed on my head.
Guaranteed way to experience a rapid pulse, the sensation of flying (I actually flew!), and see flashes of light. My nose also started running a lot. Fuck drugs. BICYCLES.

posted October 13, 2007 2:28 AM PDT

I fall on my head ALL THE TIME, nad no way does it have a body high.

posted October 13, 2007 3:00 AM PDT

No, but my body was a great many feet above the level of the sea at the time. My face also lost a nice portion of its skin.

posted October 13, 2007 3:02 AM PDT

Oh, and I might add that you aren't doing it fast or hard enough. It has to be hard enough to break your collar bone a little bit and make you see blue.

posted October 13, 2007 10:38 AM PDT

Quote:
Originally posted by DoctorKitten on October 13, 2007 2:19 AM PDT I gave The teachings of Don Juan to Goodwill.

I did that to gravity's rainbow.